Negative

Negative Speeches
Here are some of the negative arguments you worked on at our meeting on December 18th

Resolved: Students should get paid for high achievement.
 * If students get paid, they won't spend it wisely.
 * Students will work for the wrong reasons.
 * Where is the money coming from?
 * What is high achievement? Who decides?
 * What about kids with disabilities?
 * Payment creates a greater temptation to cheat.
 * Students should work for high achievement without a bribe.
 * Students are already getting rewarded.

I think these are great ideas. Before you begin writing speeches, make sure to turn those questions into statements. For example, change the question, "What is high achievement? Who decides?" to something like, "The definition of high achievement is difficult to establish, and it is unclear who will decide."

Just something to think about.

Hey guys, this is hannah and morgan and we pieced together the beginnings of a negative speech (at least for the first speaker, the second speaker is basically an outline right now), please feel free to post ideas to help From Reid: Please note that the Dallas one was based on __Teacher Merit,__ not students. [] []

Negative Speech: Speaker #1

We, the con side, believe that students should NOT get paid for high achievement. Our first point is that students would have more of an incentive to cheat in order to get the rewards available. Because some of these students might feel that there is no hope for them to reach the high achievement that is expected of them to be able to get the reward. If students are cheating, they aren’t really learning. Also, who says that the “payment” is money, for all we know, they might be talking about stickers. Now, if you are trying your best to get your grades up, and you finally do, would you like a sticker? Besides, according to Dallas News, Texas tried this same type of merit program hoping to see a big boost in student achievement (this program was called the Texas Educator Excellence Grant, or TEEG). But, sadly, 300 million dollars of merit money didn’t give them the boost they were looking for, researchers for Texas A&M University, Vanderbilt University and the University of Missouri. Said, "There is no systematic evidence that TEEG had an impact on student achievement gains." Thirdly, we’d like to point out that this “incentive” program isn’t like real life. What happens when these students have to provide child-care, or vote, or volunteer. You don’t get paid for these things, this is basically a bribe. Besides, shouldn’t the students already want to do their best, learn, and get good grades anyway? Even if this were to happen, where would the money come from? Raised taxes? Cuts in schools? More people being layed off? Would this really help student achievement if these students’ parents are struggling to pay for these bills and can’t afford to go to school? Over all, students being paid for high achievements has too many loopholes, more will be mentioned by my partner. Which is why my partner and I would like you to rethink this statement. http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/education/stories/110409dnmetmeritpay.41442db.html http://www.school-for-champions.com/character/newberger_cheating2.htm Speaker #2

We, the con side, believe that students should NOT get paid for high achievement, for both the reasons that my partner mentioned and for the reasons that I am about to mention. One of these reasons is that, the money could be used for other things, like replacing out of date materials? Which is going to help students learn, new materials or rewards? With our new discoveries, textbooks come out of date quicker than the money can be made to buy new ones. Theese books are expensive. So, are you saying that we should be spending the money on rewards other than learning materials. Thirdly, this money could go to people who really need help. Like the people in Haiti after that terrible earthquake that caused dremendous damage. Fourthly, if you think about it, students are already getting rewards. With praise, little toys (depending on the teacher), candy, and a sense of a job well-done. This could also promote bullying because you know the whole “Give me your lunch money”, now it could be something like “Give me your reward”… (stare of into the distance and look mysterious for 7 seconds) Over all, giving students rewards 4 high achievement is a bad idea. And could cause money problems, and promote bad behavior among the children.

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Hey guys this is Hannah and ive found some links for the walmart debate topic. Just so you know, these links will be posted on the affirmative side, too. I'll add more as i find them! [|Jobd] [|Women Being Paid LEss Than Men1] [|Women Being Paid Less Than Men 2] Ok, this next one is more of a blog like setting, but it might give us some good ideas. [|5 Good Things About Walmart]